![[Mac Plus]](macplus.jpg)
The most recent revision date of this page is July 25 2010 To order or to send email @ me follow this link.
The Macs on this page are the first series of Macs produced by Apple. They are called "compact" Macs because they include a 9 inch monitor. Sometimes they are also called "9-inch" Macs. While they have been very common on the surplus scene all through the 1990's, they are getting hard to find these days, especially in unfaded original colors. Many of those found (and sold on certain Web auction sites) have problems. These often have faulty power supplies, dirty or gummed-up floppy drives, faded CRT's, cosmetic issues. Shipping can easily damage these units. Any Mac of this vintage, needs to be tested, repaired or parts replaced - that takes time and parts. Unfortunately, it's easy to clean one up and sell it in whatever condition it's found in.
PRICES: Because of the above circumstances, common prices for these as "systems" are low. So we primarily sell PARTS for these systems, not the whole system. A simple answer to "how much WOULD one system cost?" is this: I could not possibly offer a "complete" 128K or 512K system for less than $150 plus shipping, due to parts value - it would likely be MORE. A Mac Plus or SE or later, would likely be less. This is NOT a guaranteed price, only a guideline - period. You can ask me about "complete" systems, but mostly likely any systems I'd have for sale would be on my Mac collectables Web page, if they are not listed below.
Here are the various "compact" Macs I have available on this page:
Go to our Mac home pageto see links to the other Mac systems and accessories pages I have on my site.
To email or order, please follow this link for
ordering information, terms and conditions. There is also info about
orders outside the USA. A list of customer references can be found on
this page.
The Mac Plus has up to 4 Megs of RAM, and an internal 800K floppy drive. Most
are tan (beige), later models were "platinum" (off-white with grey keys). This one
is pictured with an optional external 800K drive, the extended keyboard, and
mouse. Some units with faded colors or uneven fading are offered at a discount.
The 128K and 512K look very similar but have different connectors than the Plus
for printer and modem; and there are variations in labling.
For questions about reading Mac Plus, 128K or 512K diskettes on an IBM-type PC,
please review this document. Shipping weight for
these systems is 20 lbs, 25 lbs with keyboard and mouse. See the
parts sections for
power supplies (analog cards) or floppy drives for these systems.
Mac Plus units in faded cosmetic condition but in good working order are available; ask about price. Units with better cosmetics cost more; and unfaded Platinum (grey) costs more than tan. See the linked information regarding likely prices.
Shipping weight for Mac Plus units is 20 lbs, 25 lbs with keyboard and mouse.
Mac Plus logic (cpu card), $35 plus shipping.
Mac Plus power supply, CRT, 800K floppy drive, and other parts are in our Mac parts page.
Keyboard and mouse would be on my Mac collectables Web page.
Memory is available - check the memory Web page.
To email or order, please follow this link for ordering information, terms and conditions. There is also info about orders outside the USA.
Mac 512K's or 512KE's I have a few, but cosmetics vary. See my section on Mac 128K, 512K and other collectables for any units available. Please note my comments above on likely prices.
Mac 512K or 512KE logics, CPU cards, or motherboards are not available from me at this time. They require considerable testing and may require repair, due to age. Any 512K or 512KE motherboards I'd sell would be listed in my Mac collectables page. See the linked information regarding likely prices.
Mac 512k and 512Ke power supply, 800K floppy, CRT and other parts are in our Mac parts page.
The 400K floppy drive is shown on my Mac collectables Web page.
Keyboard and mouse would be on my Mac collectables Web page.
Memory is available - check the memory Web page.
512K floppy drives were either 400K or 800K. The 512 (no KE) was sold with 400K drives; the 512KE was sold with 800K drives.
But the 512K and even 128K's
were sometimes upgraded to use 512K motherboards and 800K drives. Some were upgraded to Mac Plus with a new back half! Here is a link to a photo of a 400K drive, the top cover plate is removed to show some of the internals. The 800K drive are half the height of this drive (2 inches, 5 centimeters) and look very different. You may be able to look inside the drive slot of a 512K and make a determination.
Any 128K's I'd have for sale would be on my Mac collectable Web page. Please note my comments above on likely prices.
Mac 128K logics, CPU cards, or motherboards are not available from me at this time. They require considerable testing and may require repair, due to age. Any 128K motherboards I'd sell would be listed in my Mac collectables page. See the linked information regarding likely prices.
Mac 128K power supply, CRT and other parts are in our Mac parts page.
The 400K floppy drive is shown on my Mac collectables Web page.
Keyboard and mouse would be on my Mac collectables Web page.
Memory is available - check the memory Web page.
To email or order, please follow this link for
ordering information, terms and conditions. There is also info about
orders outside the USA.
![[Mac SE]](mac-se.jpg)
The SE series of Macs have up to 4MB of memory and a 9-inch diagonal black and white CRT. For years, these SE's were relatively common as surplus. Today they are getting hard to find, and many of them have cosmetic fading (they are turning yellow). And, at over 20 years, their original hard drives are just wearing out, the floppy drives are gummed up. So we will have to price these as systems based on work needed to restore to working condition. Systems in good or excellent cosmetic condition will be specifically listed below or in our collectables page. A minimum price for one of these systems, without keyboard and mouse, would be near $100 for one in a faded cabinet; more for SE/30 and SE FDHD. See the linked information regarding likely prices.
See the ADB accessories section for keyboard and mouse: For hard drives, review the section on other Mac hard drives for drive sizes and prices. For questions about reading Mac SE diskettes on an IBM-type PC, please review this document. Memory is available - check the memory Web page.
Mac SE, 4 Megs RAM, 1-800K floppy, no kbd\mouse: ask if available and
state desired cosmetic condition. Check our SCSI hard drive section for prices.
Units in better cosmetic condition will cost more.
Shipping weight 25 lbs, with keyboard & mouse 30 lbs.
SE logic only, $29 plus shipping, quantities available.
SE FDHD (superdrive), 4 Megs Ram, 1.4 floppy, no kbd\mouse:
ask if available and state cosmetic condition. A minimum price for a working system would be above the price of an SE system for a system with poor cosmetic coloring but in good physical and working order.
Check our SCSI hard drive section for prices.
Shipping weight 25 lbs, with keyboard & mouse 30 lbs.
SE FDHD logic only - if available, $49 plus shipping.
NOTE: To upgrade an SE to an SE "superdrive" or "FDHD" to read 1.4M diskettes;
this requires three chips: two ROMS and one IWM (floppy controller).
OR, you could replace the SE logic (CPU) card with an SE FDHD logic.
You also need the 1.4M floppy drive of course.
For software, you may need the Apple File Exchange utility, or the extensions
and software in some versions of System 7.
Check my parts section for prices on 1.4M floppy drives. In addition the SE internal frame may not have room to allow PDS expansion cards; the SE FDHD, SE Superdrive, and SE/30 often have room through the frame.
For SE add-on cards, check my Nubus (and earlier cards) section; for SE network cards, check my networking section.
To email or order, please follow this link for ordering information, terms and conditions. There is also info about orders outside the USA.
The Mac SE/30 is a prized "compact Mac" system, as it will support a relatively large amount of memory with eight 30-pin SIMMS. There are also a number of expansion cards for the SE/30 for Ethernet networking and for external video monitors. Some people use them as printer servers, some just enjoy upgrading and modifing them, or using them as they are. We try to keep these in stock but like the other compact Macs they are harder to find.
As of Jan 2006 we are NOT SELLING SE/30's, until we can offer them with motherboard parts REPLACED. These systems are now so old that critical components, like specific capacitors and the high voltage transformer, are failing from AGE. Even a working system will fail over time. We will change this post when we have made repairs and determined a proper cost for REPAIRED SE/30's. See the linked information regarding likely prices.
Mac SE/30, 8 megs RAM, HD (see below), 1.4M floppy, no kbd or mouse. Clean and working, $ask for price and availability but specify cosmetic condition. Shipping weight 30 lbs, with keyboard & mouse 35 lbs. *NOT AVAILABLE, SEE ABOVE FOR DETAILS**
SE/30 logics (CPU cards) are generally not available seperately, we need them to sell with systems, so we'd price the logic too high. But for non-US customers, who pay a lot for shipping, we will price the logic only if you ask.**NOT AVAILABLE, SEE ABOVE FOR DETAILS**
The SE/30 systems use 8 30 pin SIMMs in groups of four.
For increased memory, check the memory section.
For a larger hard drive, simply add the price of the drive from my
internal hard drive list.
Power supplies and CRT's are also available in my parts section.
For SE/30 add-on cards, check my parts section.
In particular we have SE/30 video cards in the video parts section
To email or order, please follow this link for ordering information, terms and conditions. There is also info about orders outside the USA.
Classic and Classic II systems are available, some units have some color fading. Color Classics, with their color CRT's, are even harder to find. Be specific as to acceptable cosmetic condition when ordering if that is an issue. See the linked information regarding likely prices.
![[Classic ii]](class2.jpg)
Mac Classic, 1 megs RAM, 40M HD, 1.4M floppy.
Shipping weight 20 lbs. Upgrade to 4 megs with an Apple 3MB add-on memory card, $10 with system.
Classic logic (CPU card) only, $39 plus shipping.
Mac Classic II (Performa 200), 4 megs RAM, 40M HD, 1.4M floppy. No kbd or mouse.
Shipping weight 20 lbs.
Classic II logic (CPU card) only, $49 plus shipping.
Color Classic system has a 68030 processor at 16MHz. shipping weight 30 lbs. Check my Mac collectables page for Color Classics and Color Classic II's.
Memory for all the above systems are available - check the memory Web page.
By 2010 it seems that interest in Color Classic systems are to "mod" them to accept Power PC motherboards. That involves replacing the internal wiring harness with one from an "all in one" PowerMac. A customer sent me a number of Web links to sites which support such mods, as below. Check my Power Mac Web page for related hardware, such as CPU boards and some harnesses from PowerMacs.
http://www.colourclassicfaq.com/
http://homepage2.nifty.com/frogeye/takky.html
http://homepage.mac.com/wtnb/index.htm
http://web.archive.org/web/20070806010501/http://www.stuartbell.dsl.pipex.com/PowerCC/
http://www.applefritter.com - Colour classic Forum
http://www.68kmla.org
To email or order, please follow this link for
ordering information, terms and conditions. There is also info about
orders outside the USA.
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![[Mac SE/30]](macse30.jpg)
